Murder Ballad MondayI’ll be true unto my love…
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I’ll be true unto my love… — 8 Comments

  1. Shaleane, you have nailed exactly the ‘holy fool’ role in both Russian literature, extended to court jester in British and other literature. Your reference to Allen Ginsberg shows the tensions between the ‘holy fool’ and the ethos of the babblers environment both then and now. It was Ken’s comment in an earlier blog/post that caught my attention – referencing the MB as perhaps a venue for protestant confessions – and made me think of the ‘holy fool’. If one takes the MB as an interpretive ballad of an actual event, then yes it could be a sort of confessional. But as you noted, there seems to be a deeper and broader meaning lurking within original ballads. The appearance of the miller, the killing/disappearance of the bird in the earlier song, the way nature plays into the songs seem tantalizing glimpses of things not said (or not sung) except by the MB itself.

    Eagerly awaiting the next installment to see how these ideas play out.

  2. Oh my how I did enjoy that clip in light of your comments, Ken. “Jesus at the Movies,” is a class I would definitely take and do my homework in.

    This conversation about the “holy fool” brings to mind my favorite such fool (or so he was called): the poet Allen Ginsberg. His foolishness was a bit complicated. I’d summarize as follows: a holy babbler whose shocking, graphic nonsense definitely served to reinforce some strong moral and cultural values, but not those held by the powers-that-be or the culture at large. So he’s kind of like the double agent holy fool. One can easily dismiss him because he’s a fool. But one can’t really judge or punish him too much because…well, he’s clearly a fool. Thus he is able to continue on with his song and his message.

    Or, to take the holy out of it and extend the idea a bit further, this is a similar function to the court jester who entertains the king and his guests but also criticizes the king and his guests (or gives them harsh information no one else can give them otherwise). I think a lot of murder ballads work this way, actually, especially as they evolve. That is, they may break some conventions in order to reinforce a moral code, but it may not necessarily be the moral code they “should” be reinforcing or appear to be reinforcing on the surface.

    Which is precisely what makes them so entertaining and valuable – they convey secret or forbidden messages right in front of everybody, all with song and dance! (Of course sometimes jesters were known to go too far in this regard and the king had to whip them…).

  3. Going back to the first comment on this post, I’m reminded that Greg Alles, a friend and mentor to Pat and me, teaches a course (unfortunately after we graduated) called “Jesus at the Movies.” It’s a course about how Jesus (a type of holy figure) appears in a variety of ways in contemporary cinema. He shows the following clip–the only time in the movie, I think, where somebody ascribes a proper name to the character (at 1:25):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syQZnWou3-4

    I don’t think the ballad material we take up will ever go precisely that direction in framing the role of violence; but it is true, nonetheless, that these songs cover a whole lot of ground about reckoning with eternity before, during, and after the decisive action.

  4. Ken my good man, I’ve got a theory about that refrain… I explore it in my final post on the topic, coming tomorrow. I’d very much appreciate your (and anyone’s) tossing it around to test it!

  5. Thanks, Pat, for lining out the four types of singers. It’s a helpful way to think through the question or comment that I kept trying to frame in response to your first post.

    I’ll admit that for as many times as I’ve heard the Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band version of “Oh, the Wind and the Rain,” I have never listened to it this closely. I had always made the assumption that “The Wind” and “The Rain” were at least thematically relevant, if not essential to the narrative. But they’re not the latter.

    By my rough count, we have refrains that reinforce the content (“dreadful wind and rain”), contrast with the content (Hey with the gay and the grandeur O”), repeat place-names (“Edinburgh, Edinburgh” [good choice]), and are merely nonsense syllables (Fal the lal the lal laral lody”). I’m not sure if this is exhaustive, but I’m trying to understand where “the boys are born for me” fits in this rough typology. If it’s not the last one, nonsense, then it seems to be one of the few that winds up fitting into the voice of a protagonist in this ballad rather than the narrator. It may not be the only exception, but it’s the one I noticed.

  6. Yes, thanks for the kind words and the interesting question.

    I would agree with Pat’s reply that the narratives in the ballads often reinforce the moral framework of their culture of origin through some kind of contrast.

    I’m interested in how you see the analogy–as the “holy fool” designation is typically applied to people or characters, and I’m working through how it would apply to a song.

    I’m not particularly familiar with the term, “holy fool,” but know that it has been applied to monks. Taking monastic vows represents rejecting worldly values for spiritual or heavenly ones. In this sense, such fools act in contrast with the values in their immediate social world, but in a different kind of transgression than is depicted in the murder ballad.

    The transgressors in the murder ballad usually give up higher order values for priorities or motivations (jealousy, worldly security) that are a good deal less elevated.

    I haven’t yet read it, but I believe Dostoevsky’s _The Idiot_ develops the “holy fool” theme. The more contemporary examples from the movies that I can think of depict someone in the role as a more or less unwitting agent of grace–perhaps Chance the Gardener/Chauncey Gardiner in “Being There” or John Coffey in “The Green Mile.” (I’m sure the initials of his name were chosen very carefully.) In thinking about this, I guess I can come around to thinking of the contrast the murder ballad provides having that kind of function, but still think that it does so through transgressions that go in the opposite direction, if that makes sense.

    I haven’t had time to dig into “The Ballad of Reading Gaol” yet, but I grabbed a copy after seeing your comment. I’ve read a bit and scanned a bit, and think that there’s a good deal in there that resonates with some of the themes we’ve explored so far–especially involving bravery and cowardice and a close reckoning with the truth. Thanks for the recommendation!

  7. Hey, thanks for the question and the compliments!

    If by ‘holy fool’ you mean that the murder ballad purposely ‘violates’ the village/society’s ideas of proper morality with its graphic depictions of horrible deeds, but does so as a way to in fact reinforce those morals, then yes; I think that is one important way in which they function. Absolutely. I do not believe it is their only function; however, it is quite important. The ‘rationalizer’ described above I believe has that end in mind when s/he reworks a ballad in their own moral ‘image’.

    ‘Omie Wise is perfect example, though there are many others. In reality, John Lewis the murderer escaped jail and even when recaptured and tried, was acquited. Yet, several version of the ballad end with his implicit or explicit punishment, in this world and/or the next.

    This is an interesting and critical point, and I will certainly develop it further in my final post coming up! I see “Two Sisters” as a great, but more complex, example of this.

  8. Hello MB Monday bloggers. I would love to hear/read your thoughts on whether the MBs act as the ‘holy fool’ of the society/times/villages of origin? During the dark of a sleepless night I did come across this interesting link: A Ballad of Reading Gaol (Oscar Wilde) but haven’t pursued it further. Thanks for the wonderful discussions and opportunity to pursue a genre I was unaware of until now. Its the perfect companion to middle of a sleepless night coffee!